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Wickim Totim |
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With so many people asking for advice on which metal albums to buy, I thought it might be a good idea for members to post their metal collections somewhere so
that they're all together in list format. I'll post mine later.
Last Edited By: BethanyKismet 07/06/08 2:17.
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General Ceel |
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This thread will be used for fans of all kinds of metal to discuss every aspect of the music and the metal lifestyle that comes to mind. This will be a long term thread, discussing many things, including talking about new albums as we get them, concerts that we go to, and our views of why metal is superior to other rock based styles.
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General Ceel |
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Who has it, and what are your opinions?
For those who don't own it you can listen to samples HERE ![]() The Root Of All Evil: 8:08 The Answer Lies Within: 5:26 These Walls: 7:00 I Walk Beside You: 4:29 Panic Attack: 7:16 Never Enough: 6:34 Sacrificed Sons: 10:43 Octavarium: 23:58 Dream Theater: John Petrucci (vocals, guitar); Mike Portnoy (vocals, drums, percussion); James LaBrie (vocals); Jordan Rudess (lap steel guitar, keyboards); John Myung (bass instrument). Recording information: The Hit Factory, New York, New York (11/2004 - 02/2005). As the sole major-label progressive-metal act, Dream Theater invariably set the standard as the flagship band of the genre. With the numerically themed OCTAVARIUM (including eight tracks signifying the band's eighth release) the shred-rock quintet continues to challenge themselves creatively. Opening track "The Root Of All Evil" picks up the thread that began with "The Glass Prison" (SIX DEGREES OF INNER TURBULENCE) and carried forward to "This Dying Soul" (TRAIN OF THOUGHT). Drummer Mike Portnoy's lyrics for these songs read like a set of deeply personal journal entries documenting his painful recovery experience, further disclosed by a footnote nod to Alcoholics Anonymous co-founder Bill Wilson. OCTAVARIUM chiefly finds Dream Theater stepping back from elaborate fretboard acrobatics, focusing on vocal-based, song-oriented material ("I Walk Beside You," "The Answer Lies Within"); much in the spirit of AWAKE and their breakthrough album IMAGES AND WORDS. "Sacrificed Sons" captures the heartbreak of the 9/11 tragedy, while the grandiose title track showcases a melodic, Styx-inspired keyboard solo by Jordan Rudess (better known for a blisteringly frenetic style). Twenty years since their inception, Dream Theater prevails as the benchmark of modern prog metal. |
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Mac8136 |
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Quote:I like the diversity of heavy metal. From the more rock-inspired Dream Theater to the Satan-inspired Dimmu Borgir, metal has something for every fan. By the way, I got my sister to like Blind Guardian and Nightwish. |
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Darthbeerman |
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.....or ancient Egyptian mythology translated directly from old texts....
![]() 1. Dusk Falls upon the Temple Of The serpent On The Mount of Sunrise 2. Cast Down The Heretic 3. Sacrifice Unto Sebek 4. User-Maat-Re 5. Burning Pits Of The Duat, The 6. Chapter Of Obeisance Before Giving Breath To The Inert One In The Presence Of The Crescent Shaped Horn 7. Lashed To The Slave Stick 8. Spawn Of Uamenti 9. Annihilation Of The Wicked 10. Von Unaussprechlichen Kulten I know what you mean Mac. Too many in the narrow minded public don't realize how much ground the word METAL covers. They think metal = Metallica. Thats just not true. Metal comes in so many shapes and forms that its impossible for even us Metal fans to fully grasp each regional or sub style. Individuality is the name of the game. Of course there are lots of copy cats. But the best metal fans can spot who the originals are and why the fakers are. |
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Clegg Holdfast |
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Dont have either but I want them.
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General Ceel |
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Man, you and I are gonna hit a concert next year. I'm long over due to lose my hearing and my voice again. Remember the blast we had when we say Cradle of Filth?
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Clegg Holdfast |
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Hell ya! I got to meet Zack Wylde, shook his hand and see cradle. All 3 days after my motorcycle accident. AHH vicadin and metal!
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General Ceel |
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Zakk's the man. Its too bad we were all so freaking cold, wet, and worn out that we needed to get the @#%$ out of there once we met Cradle. It went from 90's at noon when Chiamera went on stage, to a downpour when Cradle of Filth took the stage, then cold and windy. My autographed CD's forever show the signs of water damage because of it.
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Quel Jin Lorn |
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While we're on the subject of progressive metal, I'd strongly encourage fans of Dream Theater to check out the Norwegian progressive classical act WINDS. Carl August Tidemann is a stellar guitarist... dare I say, almost if not even Petrucci caliber. Recently I picked up their latest release, "The Imaginary Direction of Time". In summary, it's just as good as anything Dream Theater can do. When you've got Hellhammer, one of the most renowned drummers in all of metal behind the skins, plus the force of Tidemann and the rest of the band, it's hard to go wrong.
![]() The vocals are also well-suited for the sullen, depressing atmosphere as well. Lars Eric Si may not have the range of James LaBrie, but his vocals definitely sound alot less 'whiny' or 'corny', which, in my opinion, LaBrie's vocals sometimes border on. All in all, any fan of DT would like this. Although Winds incorporate much more of a neo-classical sound with the heavy inclusion of orchestral sounds and pianos, there is little else that separates these two bands from each other, especially talent-wise. It's a shame that not many other people know about this band. http://www.metalbite.com/tracks.asp?album=2609 |
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Clegg Holdfast |
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Everyone who knows metal knows of Iced Earth. TRIBUTE TO THE GODS was my first Iced earth. I still really love it regardless that it skips in my car cause my player is super sensitive.
![]() Its awesome to see musicians paying hommage to those that came before them and do so in a most rightous way. |
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Darth Midian |
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I haven't heard the band yet, but i'm having a hard time believing that anything with Hellhammer in it being compared to Dream Theater. He's a great blackmetal drummer, however compared to Mike Portnoy he's the opposite side of the coin. Portnoy is diverse and articulate. Hellhammer was always a whirl of fury.
And you admit that they are vocally different as well. Finally who is this Tidemann? Petrucci has perfect form and is classically trained. Watch how effortlessly he works, compared to the (in comparison) sloppy of even our favorite other guitar players. I have no doubt that this band might be good. If you say it is, i trust how. However i'm wondering if you haven't picked the wrong band to compare them to? |
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General Ceel |
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Former IMMORTAL DOMINION Bassist Kills Wife, Self Following Return From Iraq - Aug. 5, 2005
Stephen S. Sherwood, former bassist for Colorado heavy metal band IMMORTAL DOMINION (web site, MySpace.com page), shot and killed his wife before turning the gun on himself Wednesday (August 3), nine days after returning to their Fort Collins home from a tour in Iraq, according to the Associated Press. When Sherwood joined the Army a year and a half ago, the former musician was "long-haired and tattooed and about the furthest thing from a military man you could imagine," a neighbor says. When he came home on leave from Iraq last winter, the difference was dramatic: "Not only had he put on a lot of weight, he was real bulked up and had shaved his long hair and looked like an MP," neighbor Steve Johnson said. Sherwood, his wife Sara, whose age wasn't given, and their young daughter were on the verge of a stressful move from their Larimer County home of eight years to Colorado Springs, where Sherwood would be stationed, according to the Rocky Mountain News. Sherwood's wife didn't want to leave her home about five miles north of Fort Collins, neighbors said. Neighbors said Sherwood had moved into Highland Acres, Colorado in 1997, where he put together IMMORTAL DOMINION. His wife's sister was married to one of the band's members. Through them, Sherwood met his wife, Johnson said. Back in 1997, Sherwood inadvertently caused a problem for local Colorado bands in general by speaking his mind for a Westword.com profile. In the article, Sherwood was quoted as criticizing radio station KBPI for ignoring songs from his band's CD, "Birth". "They won't play them because they don't play any local music anymore," he told writer John Jesitus. Sherwood also called KBPI jock K.O. "a wuss," adding, "Just because it's a big corporation and they're going to fire you if you play anything that's not on a major label" doesn't justify the DJ giving IMMORTAL DOMINION the brush. |
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Quel Jin Lorn |
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You'll have to listen to them yourself then, Ceel. Both Tidemann and Petrucci's sounds have a great deal in common.
Even though Hellhammer was known for his furious speed with past acts, he's calmed down alot with Winds, and is instead playing slower, yet equally articulate and complex drum beats on this album. That's not to say he doesn't leave out blast beats here and there though, which are definitely plentiful on this album. |
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General Ceel |
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Anyhow. What is everyone's opinion on Black Sabbath having to miss four Ozzfest dates in the last two weeks because of Ozzy not being able to go on stage. Iron Maiden has been headlining and playing full sets to make up for the lack of Sabbath. Should Ozzy call it quits? Should Ozzfest continue on during future years without Ozzy being on stage?
I think that Ozzfest is very important to metal in America. Since our bands can't get radio play and media coverage, Ozzfest is the best place. The lineup is always a mix of underground bands and mainstream bands, which i think is great because it ensures that the mainstream fans learn a lesson be hearing the better underground bands preform. It also gives alot of exposure to several great underground bands each year. True, if i was gonna put a festival together, the ideal would to be have all the great underground acts. But other than Ozzfest, there are no other chances for Underground bands to play infront of 15,000 to 40,000 people in america. Iron Maiden for example, can sellout 50,000 arenas any place else on earth. But here, they don't get any air play so they only end up drawing 2 to 6 thousand people at smaller venues. As for Ozzfest continuing on without Ozzy, i think it should. Bands like Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Dream Theater etc should headline the festival in future years. Without Ozzfest, bands like In Flames, Arch Enemy, The Haunted and Soilwork who are all on Ozzfest this year don't get a chance to play infront of peopole who are not already fans. And hell, were it not for Ozzfest I would of had to drive 4 hours just to see Cradle of Filth a couple year ago. Most metal bands only play two cities in Pennsylvania: Philly and Pitt. |
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Darthbeerman |
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Quote: www.mlive.com/entertainme...xml&coll=5 |
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Mac8136 |
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Quote:That just adds to the history. |
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Quel Jin Lorn |
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Quote: Abso-freaking-lutely. Ozzy Osbourne is not what makes Ozzfest. The bands that play there are. Slayer, Black Label Society, Iron Maiden, Arch Enemy... they are what makes/has made Ozzfest the great thing that it is. Black Sabbath is an awesome band, no doubt, but Ozzy himself? He's just a washed up singer. The drugs have taken away what was left of his voice, not to mention his brain, although that could just be a questonable stage act to give his TV show more appeal. And besides, if he was smart, he would let Ozzfest continue even after he's gone from it. Who doesn't want to leave a legacy somewhere? |
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Corringath Ventraas |
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Quote: I know what you mean Ceel; here's an example from two people I know; Quote:-someone I know, who, despite the audio evidence I've given him (the Metropolis Pt. 2 DVD), still is of the opinion that Metallica is the more talented band. Needless to say, I think he's nuts in this case. But, he is entitled to his own opinion. Quote:-another friend of mine. Again, he's entitled to his own opinion, but from what I've heard, there's very little chance that Barker, much less ANYONE from Blink 182 could hold a candle to Dream Theater in playing or technical ability. However, once I showed him the Budokan solo and a few of the tracks, and I think I made him a fan, don't know though. I know all of this sounds snobbish, and I apologize for that; I just like to see people listen to (what I perceive as) quality music, and if I like something, I'll share it. ^^; |
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Mac8136 |
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Quote:Yes. Why stop a good thing? Even after Ozzy is long dead, Ozzfest should keep going on. |
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Quel Jin Lorn |
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Pretty much every drummer in metal beats the crap out of Travis Barker in and out and puts him to shame. Plus I'll bet your friend hasn't heard any amazing Jazz drummers like Horatio Hernandez.
www.drummerworld.com/Vide...zColl.html |
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