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Rach Sullen |
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*kicks Bill awake*
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Korran Halcyon |
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Seriously, the only jab that I could even see possibly being here is that some of us do not feel comfortable at TSC. Which, trust me, we all know that I made
my problems clear to staff back in the day, and I was dismissed like a child. So please, Sophie, instead of coming out of the woodwork for no reason at all,
back off. Some of us did, and we were met with nothing but conflict. I tried to offer stuff to TSC, and everyone knows it. Much of it was ignored after being
praised. So please, you canno say that we did not try just to be pushed out and I cannot be a member of that place nor do i ever want to. It that is a jab then
I find it a laughable one and none of you have thick skin at all.
Regardless, that "jab" is part of the point. If you get a second faction then people can come together that once felt on the outside nd make more of an impact. Being new and instantly being able to get in on the way things are is what keeps them around. And what Sam said was correct. A lot of the people interested in this are not member of TSC or do not give much to TSC as is because they do not like the way the faction is run and might as well be rogue. So please, let us get out of that argument alltogether. I'm going to repost my idea, because I feel most people have not even read it and I want to get it out there again. Note: all the spelling errors in this post are due to the fact that my contacts are not in yet and I'm just yping everything and running with it. |
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Korran Halcyon |
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Basically the idea brainstormed up in a nut shell last night. At TGC since I have gone rogue, I created a thing called the Affinity. The idea was basically
taking that ground work and building from it.
We would be a group of Sith focused on creating Order in the galaxy. We use the darkside as a tool because it will give us the power to unify the galaxy, and not murder and maim. "Darkside for the Greater Good" kind of slogan. Albeit the greater good is our idea of it, and it benefits us. The Sith themselves are kind of fallowing the philosophy of the Rule of One. Everything is for the Order and the vision of the Order. The guy in charge is not in charge because he is the strongest but because he has the vision and the know how to make that vision happen. We would be order, where TSC would be chaos. As we, the think tank, view it at least. We would be deep in an alliance with the Empire. The brain trust decided that really we want to appeal to the general idea that the Force Factions should not have fleets. We would rely on the Empire for ships and highly trained armies, and in exchange we would supply them with highly trained force users. Also, one of the reasons that Ceel didn't like multiple sith factions was because of the constant sith vs. sith fighting. The Affinity, as we decided, would not want to engage in a war with TSC. We view them as kind of wack in the head. They are not even worth out time addressing in our minds. Trust me, don't get me wrong. Cause you're probably thinking, "isn't that the kind of thing the snobbish Sith that sat around being all decadent did," and yes that was their mentallity. But! We are focusing fighting the Jedi and the Rebels because they are a direct threat. The Jedi, while respectable, do not have the backbone to do what we desire to do, and as such since they fight against us where ever they can they are an enemy. The Rebellion is a group of dissidents and terrorists who also directly oppose our cause. So, the Affinity would never engage TSC as a faction, while they might engage us (cause I know who is in charge over there and I know how they work) but it won't happen visa versa. IC leadership is a triumvirate. You have myself, an Imperial Knight (our force liasons to the Empire), and some other person. It will hopefully be fluid. I never liked factions that were all about the leaders. I thought that RIP's focus on the horsemen was not a good thing, so the Triumvirate will simply be there for leadership. Kind of like how TGE has Disra, Cornelo and Dorlas representing different sections of their group, but by no means are they the focus of the faction. If a member starts to lag off then we shall replace them, not democratically though cause that's popularity and popularity is a failure. Hm... the full name is the Affinity of Independent Systems, don't let the name fool you. It is kind of like the People's Republic of China. The independent systems... are not independent. It is a tyrannical state, ruled by the Sith. Just note. This idea is just an idea. It is one that a lot of proponents for a new faction are in favor of. It gives us a clear and defined role, and one that would oppose the general view of TSC. It will also appeal to the desires that nuetrals want from a sith faction, and it addresses one of Ceel's problems from days long gone. And it just has a general good feel to it. Different enough from the current way things are to draw in some members, and give us a distinct role instead of an ambiguous one like things used to be. Fellow brain trusters, if there is anything I missed, fill in. |
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Remy Gray |
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We leaving out what I said before?
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Admiral Disra |
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QFE, Remy. ^Is a good idea and about 6 or 7 TGC members discussed this for an hour or two. It will work. If you don't think it is 'Sithy' enough,
stick to TSC. Right?
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Korran Halcyon |
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Aye.
And Remy, what you said is interesting. I forgot to grab it again. |
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Raine Marzullo |
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I think my inquiry was legitimate; if you going to pose an idea, it's in your best interest to make sure things are clear as crystal. We're not mind
readers. And, I don't see anyone making a complaint over "stealing" members, that's almost like grasping at straws. Like, purposely finding
something to keep a rebuttle going that shouldn't be regardless. An, I'm with Rach. There's no need to condescend a staff which does their job
effectively; if there is someone making complaints then why haven't they said something? And what belittling, seriously? Or popularity contest? Many of us,
several of us, have gotten where we are because we work hard. Not my fault if people slack off and expect things given
to them. With talk of Sith coming back or new characters being made, that makes me even more skeptical as again it creates an "alt illusion" and how
active are they going to stay? A week... four? Long enough to make such a new faction survive? Have you all discussed this. I'm all for
let's-hold-hands-and prance-about-happy-time, but not at the expense of such gruelling debating to what it fail only a month or two later. And before
someone even distorts what I say, I'm not being defensive in regards to TSC, but just "safe" you could say in the general realm of everyone being
content. Though, I don't like when I hear about there being some "secret supa battle" of trying to lure away members from one faction for this
new one that has not been approved of yet and them caught in the middle of some invisible war.
Last Edited By: Raine Marzullo
01/30/09 1:55.
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Korran Halcyon |
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DUDE, Raine let's get over it. WE have clarified what is going on. Let us not !$#%! about how the idea was proposed. Seriously. SERIOUSLY
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Raine Marzullo |
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Excuuuuse me, Korran. Forbid anyone have anything to say that's against your idea.
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Korran Halcyon |
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I never said anything like that. But the point is, he said something, you questioned it, he clarified it, and now ya'll are just complaining about
symantics.
There is no secret battle. The People behind this idea got together and brain stormed. Since posting stuff, I've gotten a good number of PM's telling me that they would love to throw their character at this. People are behind this, and it has a good chance of working. |
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Admiral Disra |
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Don't over complicate things. It isn't THAT serious.
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Captain Marcus Gray |
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What does QFE mean?
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Mariya Fleischer |
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I still think there should be a compromise to this. Korran's idea can be inside TSC as a sub group, and TSC can get more members. When the sub group grows
big enough, they split.
That's pretty fair for both sides, isn't it? |
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Dominic Marzullo |
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I think Mariya's idea sounds the best right now.
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Korran Halcyon |
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Nah, seriously. Sub-groups don't work. Yes, they were done for awhile at TGU but even then they were only really half-good. For the sith it doesn't
work, plus you've got the whole staff problem. Trust me, that's not the best way to handle it at all. It is better to just make a new faction. Give it
its own identity, and let it sink or swim. I truly believe it will succeed.
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Remy Gray |
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There's not much of a difference between a subgroup and a legit faction. If we're gonna do this, might as well go all the way instead of half-assing
it.
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Admiral Disra |
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QFE- Quoted for Emphasis
You had a good point. |
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Artemis Obauldi |
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Subgroups don't have the chance of increasing activity like new factions do. They're just not as appealing.
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VengeDraclau |
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My problem with this is that if this does get passed and you all take hold of it and start off strong with a good group of members and staffers, what happens
when people start losing interest and going inactive. Now, given I'm sure there are a lot of people pulling for this and willing to make the change in
their Character's life for it, that doesn't throw out the possibilty that if this doesn't work in say a month or so, when the faction drops out the
bottom, what happens to those that left everything they had to join it? Some might still play, some will dissapear, but I guarantee that the mass of the
members will sit and say "Now what do I do?" and lose interest or motivation all together.
This sound like a fine idea, don't get me wrong, but if your going to do this, please... PLEASE do it right and PLEASE leave TSC staff off your %$+* list for reasons for doing this or whatever that was about. There isn't any reason to say anything at all and I think Rach had every right to say something if she felt that the comments that were made were over the line. It might not be what someone intended to express to her, what matters more is how she views what was said which is something a lot of us forget to think about these days. Enough crap. Concintrate on the topic and thats it. |
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Jonny Lone |
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I wanna be the most popular!
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